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Does Bitcoin make sense for international money transfer?

Bitcoin money transfer: competing with fast elephant

“I think we will know when bitcoin has reached prime time when it is transferring more value each day than Western Union or Money Gram…”

Roger Ver, November 2013

Bitcoin money transfer is usually discussed in either sensational or downright misleading way. There is a significant category of Bitcoin stakeholders and observers who seem to be completely vested in this innovative product’s awesome potential and are unable to entertain a deviating opinion. This very smart and capable, but, unfortunately, close-minded group believes that Bitcoin cancels a need for regulation and would soon destroy Visa, Western Union and “banks.” Articles written for and by such audience are easy to find, and we will not link to them to avoid enabling such either outrageously ignorant or deceptive opinions.

Rational view of Bitcoin for Sending Money

In this context, we are always grateful to find a write-up about Bitcoin for remittances which attempts to be more objective. Here are some examples: Bootstrappers guide to bitcoin remittances, Tackling bitcoin price swings OR

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However, even more reasonable experts seem to be de-emphasizing a fundamental diversion in understanding of Bitcoin value that shall be considered for its potential in international money transfers. Here are the key points made by Bitcoin proponents, usually taken at face value.

Large segment of consumers is suffering under existing, non-Bitcoin-based setup for money transfer

The unexpected tragedy of the financial system” is quite representative in this regard. What is common about these articles is seemingly absolute lack of a field research or basic customer surveys. Speaking with enough low-income consumers who transfer money internationally, one could quickly discover that there is no “tragedy,” and, what is most puzzling, this segment is not even that eager to save on sending money. Why? It is not because low-income senders are lacking infrastructure. A large portion of SaveOnSend’ “cash” users have a smartphone and a bank account which could be easily linked for an online money transfer. BUT they are sticking with a cash agent, and, as the result, are paying 3-5-10 times more for sending money home. Counterintuitive? Yes. Tragedy? No.

Target segment for bitcoin money transfer

Target segment for bitcoin money transfer

And that is why, offline-to-online shift in remittances is happening at a crawling, 1-2% annually, pace and will be taking decades, not years. This is not unique to remittances. Such slow adoption is actually quite typical for other types of financial transactions: from cash to plastic cards, from checks to online billing, or from a “swipe-insert” plastic card to a “touch” payment with a phone or a watch.

Bitcoin money transfer can help the needy

Articles about FinTech-Bitcoin are often trying to invoke “unbanked” “poor” or “women” as the reason and special focus for money transfer startups. Instead of simply acknowledging that these startups are primarily founded to make money and accumulate market power, we are asked to believe in their higher calling. Not surprisingly, such articles are always missing two critical components which would make those claims believable: 1) specifics on targeting such segments, 2) explanation on how to make money with such targeting:

Bitcoin money transfer for unbanked

This argument is misinformed on both the sending and receiving ends of a money transfer transaction. By definition, most of the senders who transfer $200 per month to their families in India, China, Philippines, Mexico have money. Which means that majority of them have both a bank account and a smart phone. There are of course immigrants who transfer money illegally, but they don’t represent majority, in part due to stricter residence standards and increased deportations. According to Xoom’s analysis of 2011-2012 WorldBank and FDIC data, 78% of US resident non-citizens have a bank account.

On the receiving end of remittances, being unbanked is not a significant inconvenience or cost issue. With around 500,000 Western Union locations, money could be easily picked up by the great majority of such unbanked recipients. There will always be pockets of consumers who live in extremely remote areas, but reaching them with an advanced technology in a cost effective way is simply unrealistic at this point (more on that later).

can bitcoin money transfer be available in remote places?

There is virtually no advantage between receiving money into a bank account vs. picking them up from a cash agent – in most cases, a provider’s margins are the same for either method (check for yourself with SaveOnSend app).

Bitcoin money transfer is instant and, thus, doesn’t carry the FX volatility

There might be a misunderstanding about FX “volatility” in this context. Cross-border money transfer, without Bitcoin, is already evolving to a real-time-fixed-exchange-rate payment. For example, in the world’s largest corridor, USA-to-Mexico, many providers already deliver funds in minutes and more will join (see table below or see results with SaveOnSend app). The reason for why some money transmitters like Xoom or TransFast could already do it for 70-90% of bank-funded transfers while others still can’t is related to a risk management and bank connectivity, and, thus, could be eventually addressed.

Challenge for bitcoin money transfer: $300, Card-to-Cash, USA-to-Mexico, April 1, 2015

Challenge for bitcoin money transfer: $300, Card-to-Cash, USA-to-Mexico, April 1, 2015

On the other hand, money transfer via Bitcoin does carry an FX conversion disadvantage, a double-whammy:

– since Bitcoin is more volatile than pretty much any other currency, its internal spread is higher (see the chart below for 2015), and so is its spread for each conversion

– Bitcoin needs to be converted extra time or sometime even twice. For example, for sending money from USA to Mexico, it needs to be converted an additional time (USD-MXN vs. USD-BTC-MXN). For an USD-to-USD conversion when sending money from USA to countries with an option of multiple receiving currencies, like China or Philippines, Bitcoin needs to be converted twice vs. zero times with regular remittance providers.

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Here is how HelloBit’s co-founder and CEO Ali Goss summarizes this conundrum in this insightful article by Bitcoin Magazine:

“With bitcoin, you’re adding a third currency,” Goss said. “You go from U.S. dollar to bitcoin, and then from bitcoin to whatever the local currency is. You’re adding an extra FX move right there alone. That increases friction. On top of that, small startups don’t have a big FX department, and they don’t have the big abilities that come with such a department … they’re generating more costs for themselves, not less.”

Bitcoin can dramatically reduce remittance prices

Most of the potential savings for international money transfers could be realized today, immediately, IF ONLY senders stop going to cash agents and spend 3 minutes linking their bank accounts on their smart phones using their existing providers like Western Union or Ria Money Transfer. Not understanding why so many senders continue spending 3-5-10 times more while having a bank account and a smartphone will likely lead to many disappointments for Bitcoin money transfer startups and their investors down the road (read our analysis of fundamental difference in behavior of senders from USA to India vs. Mexico).

Examples of such disappointments are frequent – see the “Graveyard” section toward the end of this article or read these insights from Bitcoin entrepreneurs. But still too many Bitcoin remittance stakeholders keep repeating an outdated adage of a 10% average margin by “traditional” providers and that Bitcoin solution is 250x cheaper:

Pantera Capital Investor Newsletter - September 2015

Pantera Capital Investor Newsletter – September 2015

Instead, spend 30 seconds on SaveOnSend app or read the latest brief from WorldBank. You would quickly discover that the weighted average global margins have been falling to 6% (Western Union‘s global margin is ~5.5%, Ria Money Transfer’s – ~4%). So why are we seeing so many articles about high costs of sending money internationally? Because it was the case in the past, and it is hard to change our mindset to a fundamentally different input. As usually happens, high margins attracted more competition and prices have dropped 30% in the last 7 years alone (from the World Bank data):

Global Remittance Margins 2008-2015

Source: The World Bank

More relevant for Bitcoin-based remittance providers looking for tech-savvy early adopters, margins for online remittance in top corridors are in the 1-3% range. For money transfers from USA to India, the world’s most advanced corridor for the reasons we are describing in another SaveOnSend article, margins are approaching ZERO (see table below). And it is just a matter of time before other top corridors would follow same pattern.

Comparison among money transfer providers for USA-to-India: $1500, Bank-to-Bank, November 8, 2015

Comparison among money transfer providers for USA-to-India: $1500, Bank-to-Bank, November 8, 2015

There are still corridors with very high cost of money transfer, but they are obviously much smaller in size. For top-10 global corridors, each $10B+ in annual volume, including four covered by SaveOnSend app, margins for online transfers are generally below 3%. On the other end of the spectrum, there are numerous $1-5M corridors, especially in intra-Africa, with very little competition and, hence, much higher margins (see the world’s most expensive corridors here). The smaller the corridor the less likely is the return on building custom digital capabilities. That is why, Western Union only enables digital transfers from less than 20% of countries/destinations (33 by Q3, 2015):

Western Union Online Send Markets - July 2015

Another argument in favor of Bitcoin’s ability to reduce remittance costs is to focus on small amounts with an underlying assumption that such transfers would dramatically increase in quantity (e.g., if it costs little to send $10 to homeland, lots of migrants will begin initiating lots of small transfers). While some increase in smaller amount transfers is expected (read this interview with Western Union’s executive), there is no evidence of a major trend. Even for smaller amounts, some mainstream providers are not charging any fee, in essence, creating variable-only pricing based only on the FX markup (see top three providers below). With those providers it already costs less than $1 to send money, so even if Bitcoin transfer is free it wouldn’t make enough difference for consumers to care:

Bitcoin money transfer challenge: $20, USA-to-Philippines, Bank-to-Bank, April 15, 2015

Bitcoin money transfer challenge: $20, USA-to-Philippines, Bank-to-Bank, April 15, 2015

Bitcoin-Blockchain can dramatically reduce correspondent banking cost

A typical pitch of Bitcoin-Blockchain startup includes a picture like below which shows a multi-step process for customers (retail or business) who want to transfer money internationally. It then naturally proposes a blockchain-based solution which eliminates the need for all intermediaries letting consumers and business interact with each other directly as they do via email:

SWIFT presentation on digital disruption September 2015

While seemingly intuitive and simple, two conditions would need to be met in order for such Blockchain solution to present a significant cost advantage: a) costs of those specific back-end processes need to be a substantial component of a provider’s P&L, AND b) existing providers are deploying those processes in a substantially inefficient manner.

Let’s review financial statements of publicly-traded consumer remittances companies.

Western Union 10K 2014

Western Union 10K 2014

It becomes apparent that most of their costs are related to payments for receiving and discharging funds from-to customers, customer acquisition, channel infrastructure, customer service, and risk-management-compliance, not in recording transactions or moving money internationally (read this SaveOnSend article for more details). Hence, providers are eagerly looking for more cost-effective ways to collect and distribute funds vis-a-vis customers, acquire customers, deploy offline and online channels, service customers, manage risks of releasing funds before getting paid… not functions where Bitcoin seems to be offering a distinctive cost advantage. For example, Western Union spent HALF of all expenses in 2014 on “agent commissions” – whether underlying currency is fiat or bitcoin wouldn’t seem to make any difference. Or, let’s consider fraud-related expenses – the major issue in the remittance industry, like the case of “employee impersonation” at Xoom or when people lie about 1) having sufficient funds in their bank account or 2) not sending money or when hackers take over online accounts. Again, it is not clear why a Bitcoin-based provider would be much better at preventing such “front-end” fraud unless it is a so-called “full Bitcoin” transfer (no on- and off-ramp conversion with fiat). This will be indeed a potentially safer infrastructure, but a very slim chance of mass adoption unless we start seeing billions of dollars spent on PR-marketing globally.

But what do large remittance providers spend on correspondent banking? As we describe in this SaveOnSend article, it costs them 0.01-0.1% of revenues and is managed by a global team of 2-5 people. Compare that with compliance activities which involve 5-10% of the total company staff among established providers.

Bitcoin money transfer will destroy Western Union

Obsession with crushing Western Union seems to be a huge distraction for many remittance startups, Bitcoin or not. One thing is to have a crazy audacious goal, another is to keep talking about it as if such goal could be a reality in the next several years. To put things into perspective, 8 years since it got its act together, Xoom and Transfast are still 1/10+ of Western Union’s transfer volume, and after 4 years, Remitly is 1/30+ of Xoom’s. Remittances’ latest darling, TransferWise, is growing very fast and only after 4 years surpassed Xoom’s monthly volumes, but its business model is constrained to bank-to-bank transfers, therefore, its revenue would likely to stay marginal in comparison with Western Union’s (learn more in this SaveOnSend article):

Cross-border Revenue: Top Money Transfer Providers

Picking ANY corridor in the world and achieving 1% share would seem like a much more plausible milestone that a Bitcoin community could rally around. Achieve that in few years and many skeptics would start taking Bitcoin potential for remittances seriously. Instead, we keep seeing another clever way to compare Bitcoin’s non-existing business with the world’s leader:

Money transfer - Western Union vs Bitcoin

Money transfer – Western Union vs Bitcoin

In the meantime, Western Union has proven to be an agile adaptor to digital evolution. It was the first online in 2001, the first to experiment with mobile money in 2007, and has maintained a resounding lead in digital cross-border transfers. And that maybe the biggest “blind spot” of Bitcoin-based or remittance startups in general. They have an image, wishful thinking, of Western Union as a cash-only business which missed telephony and sticked with telegraph. The reality is quite different, and Western Union’ stable stock performance leaves more doubt about its imminent demise:

Bitcoin Money Transfer: 2-year comparison of Western Union and other stock performance vs. S&P500 index

Bitcoin Money Transfer: 2-year comparison of Western Union and other stock performance vs. S&P500 index

The only reason preventing mass Bitcoin money transfer adoption is [enter your favorite]

Articles like this highlight something unique about stakeholders in a Bitcoin money transfer community, both startup founders and their investors. Rather than learning and embracing a challenging reality of consumer remittances today, they prefer to believe that Bitcoin by itself is a “game-changer” for remittances. The are betting on a miracle of new technology taking off once enough remittance consumers hear about Bitcoin features. In their views, if only a large retailer would agree to accept Bitcoin for money transfers or if a Bitcoin remittance startup would cut its fees and conversion rates to zero, mass adoption is guaranteed. Even more grounded Bitcoin remittance participants feel it is reasonable to compare Bitcoin with Skype and WhatsApp.

They seem to forget two most basic principle behind success of any innovation

1. Manifestation of product-service virality takes weeks-months not years. WhatsApp and other “viral” giants spread like fire to millions of users and didn’t require second guessing. Nothing even remotely close has been transpiring with ANY bitcoin-based apps, and the active user base of the ones focused on remittances is typically measured in hundreds. Yes, it is possible, that one day in the future somebody will invent a fundamentally better bitcoin remittance app than anything available on the market today, but that has nothing to do with existing startups and their investors.FastestGrowingUserBase

2. The happier consumers with their existing choices and the more work required by them to adopt, the more branding and marketing efforts are required to initiate said adoption. They should also embrace a harsh implication that an abundance of satisfactory options impedes adoption not only among customers but also among necessary business partners. Why would a grocery store engage with a brand new provider that has a miniscule remittance flow if they already have a satisfactory working relationship with “Western Union” and other well-known brands? Read how CEOs-founders of Bitcoin remittance startups describe this particular challenge: BitSpark, Abra and Rebit.

So even if a Bitcoin remittance startup raises $100MM of “cheap” money from VCs or via IPO and starts offering fiat-to-fiat money transfer for FREE, to win even a 1% market share in any top corridor would take years not months and require a full-out consumer engagement effort (SEO, PR, advertising, referral incentives). But even if successful, what happens when there is the next 2001/2008-type financial crisis and “cheap” money is no longer available? Operating with no margins, what “dream team”of executives would be required in order for such bitcoin-based provider to survive? To be clear, similar challenges apply to ANY remittance startup in the online world – for example, see our assessment of TransferWise and other FinTech remittance startups.

Specific examples of Bitcoin money transfer providers

See updated list of Bitcoin money transfer providers here

Graveyard (closed or pivoted away from Bitcoin consumer remittances)

  • November 2015: BitPesa

    Launched in 2013, BitPesa initially was the best-known “use case” for Bitcoin consumer remittances to few countries the middle part of Africa. However, as BitPesa kept struggling with gaining traction among consumer remittance users, it found a typical early adopter being a small business owner who sends money occasionally. Facing this harsh reality and struggling in the initial outbound market, UK, BitPesa expanded its marketing efforts to potential senders from other countries like Canada and USA and began targeting B2B cross-border payments (see informative presentation by BitPesa’s CEO). BitPesa has raised close to $2M to date and its transfer volume has been growing at 30%/month from $50K in January 2015 reaching $400K by July. As of November 2015, nearly all of its customers were using BitPesa for business needs.

  • August 2015: Beam

  • July 2015: Cryptosigma->Toast

  • June 2015: 37Coins

Top Active Companies to Watch:

Abra (A Better Remittance App)

When on September 10th, 2015, Abra announced that it raised $12 million in funding, it was a seminal moment for Bitcoin’s evolution for remittances. For the first time ever, there was a startup with enough funds to acquire 100,000+ customers. This made Bitcoin for remittances no longer a hypothetical question. We can now compare Abra’s progress with initial trajectory of regular remittance startups:

  • TransferWise: raised $7 million in its first 2.5 years, reaching $35M in monthly transfer volumes

  • WorldRemit: raised $7 million in its first 4 years, reaching $50M in monthly transfer volumes

  • Remitly: raised $11 million in its first 3 years, reaching $2M in monthly transfer volumes

Abra was launched in February 2015 with a fascinating premise, but a comical-borderline-bizarre pitch. At that point, it was hard to imagine a better parody on the disconnect between bitcoin’s ardent fans and reality of money transfers than this presentation and the follow-up reaction – please watch it (only 6 minutes).

Now, this is actually a real serious presentation that won 2015 “LAUNCH Festival” Award. Moreover, the Abra app was hailed as the finally arrived “uber for remittances” (which is true) and “Western Union killer” (which is silly). And if you are not inside of the bitcoin bubble, you could have been forgiven for chuckling few times while watching the video. Abra presentation starts with: “I wanna talk to you about Mexican immigrant named Bill” and proceeds with painting us a story of human suffering of someone in Mexico who has to “drive 2.5 hours” to the nearest cash agent. And Abra has the solution for those apparently greatly inconvenienced folks called the “human teller.”

Considering the ubiquity of cash agents, it is not hard to imagine a place that is so remote. There are numerous small villages, 50-100 residents, in such hard-to-reach places which remain there for historical rather than economic reasons. For anyone who ventures to such villages few gaps become apparent in Abra’s presentation: a) Mobile data connectivity, which could be spotty even around NYC, is usually non-existent once you are this far from larger cities and infrastructure, there is just no business case for deploying such capabilities, b) comfort-trust of technology, especially as it relates to money is far behind in its evolution, c) while it is usually very safe to live in those communities, the overall protection coverage by government is quite limited. So this “uber for remittances” “killer app” will be deployed to THESE areas?!

There might be definitely one segment who could be eager early adopters: criminals. There is finally an app for them which allows to quickly identify somebody with money in a vicinity and thus significantly improve effectiveness of victim targeting.

Thief

Joking aside, even if we stop worrying about common sense and just go with this story, how would it look as an investment? Spending on localization, wireless data, customer service, etc., all to serve few people in remote areas seem understandable if those were marginal expenditures to piggyback on key metropolitan areas, but not as a targeted investment.

But it was apparently the right message to make, no matter how silly it seemed, because Abra won the award. And what is much more important is that Abra’s idea for “Uber for remittances” is indeed groundbreaking. Enabling consumers to act as ATMs could eventually be a replacement for hawala and catalysis for speeding up a slow shift from off- to on-line method of sending money.

Abra is not looking to modify behavior of end-users. It wisely enables a cash-to-cash method habitual for 90% of remittance transactions. The fact that Bitcoin is somehow involved is also not apparent (check out Abra’s landing page). We also shouldn’t worry that Abra would waste $12 million by targeting remote villages. All remittance startups talk about helping “poor” in remote locations because it makes for a better PR. But as everyone else, Abra is going to target tech-savvy consumers in major metropolitan areas of top global remittance corridors.

As you could tell from this article, Abra is facing a myriad of challenges. Longer-term, there is an obvious question about Abra’s ability to make profit considering that they only charge “human tellers” on each side 0.5% assuming all FX risk. At least for now, bitcoin spreads are higher and hedging is very hard to find, hence, it is quite expensive (mining businesses in developing countries are already looking for the same hedge). In terms of Abra’s competitive offering to consumers, if we add to Abra’s margin each teller’s markup of 1%, the total margin gets to around 3% which is on the high-end for corridors like USA-to-Philippines (check SaveOnSend app for other corridors).

FX Markup USA-to-Philippines; Q4,2014-Q2,2015

FX Markup USA-to-Philippines; Q4,2014-Q2,2015

For now, Abra is in an early pilot mode, singing up thousands of “human tellers,” so it might be another year before we start learning facts about its transfer volumes and revenues. The key strategic question is how Abra is going to allocate $12 million among customer acquisition, application development and back-office areas. Learning from mistakes of other remittance startups, growth of customer base shall consume a majority of funding and management time. Not another management position or a bigger office but repeat customers would eventually define whether Abra’s pathfinding leads to a sustainable business model or just an interesting techy experiment.

But the biggest hurdle Abra needs to clear in the first few years is related not to its performance but to regulations. Abra wants to claim that it is just a technology company that doesn’t provide money transfer services per say. That would allow Abra to avoid spending time and effort on compliance and licenses (see another SaveOnSend article on that topic). While it would be a welcome change for governments of USA, Mexico, Philippines, etc. to embrace Abra’s interpretation, this might be unlikely. As Abra well understands, it would have to spend heavily on PR and lobbying in order to preserve its business model. And if Bitcoin community wants to finally act like one and organize for the right cause, getting Abra off the regulatory hook shall top the list.

Rebit.ph

So far, Rebit has raised only $100K. This is a minuscule amount considering that it costs around $50 to acquire a new customer. Rebit’s more fundamental challenge is that its model is not fundamentally different from a typical remittance provider – read this article from its former insider.

Its repeat customer base is in hundreds, but Rebit is also attracting one-off users, in total generating 50-100 daily transactions. Rebit doesn’t charge fees making money on the FX-Bitcoin spread. Read Rebit’s extensive update and Q&A on Reddit.

Question for YOU: which bitcoin money transfer provider do you think has a practical chance to reach 1% market share in ANY global corridor in the next several years? Please describe your brief rationale in the comments section below.

Regulatory aspect of using Bitcoin for money transfer

Judges

Besides its business value, compliance with KYC-AML is another existential questions for Bitcoin remittances. Read this article on whether such compliance is even feasible. Faisal Khan does a great job discussing various aspects of Bitcoin’s legality and compliance for sending money internationally in his “The Lure of Remittances for Bitcoin Startups” article. Some providers are hoping that if they are MSB-licensed outside the US, they could have an online website and provide money transfers from the US to their country – see Faisal’s response here. Finally, read his step-by-step instruction on how to make Bitcoin international money transfer compliant.

For Bitcoin regulations in USA, state-by-state, read here.

Overall, we understand why a cross-border remittance provider requires more scrutiny than a company in a lending space like Lending Club or Kabbage. The additional risk of money laundering and terrorism financing might outweigh any potential benefits. At the same time, we are concerned with applying an excessive amount of regulation to this seemingly promising innovation. While many in the bitcoin community believe that bitcoin dominance is around the corner, we have a more cautious view that bitcoin money transfers are going to remain a tiny phenomena for years to come. So when we notice how governments or banking organizations are gearing up regulations and imposing limitations (FinCEN Fines Ripple), we are worried that Bitcoin’s remarkable potential would be validated much later on because of these premature efforts. Like with crimes in a non-bitcoin space, anybody is welcome to raise a concern, but so far there seems to be more fear about what might happen rather than an objective assessment of bitcoin’s present danger (see “Bitcoin Still Confuses Bankers” for a macro view on this vector).

Making Bitcoin money transfer a reality

There is a long-term vision for Bitcoin-based remittances: as the currency itself becomes stable in the next 10 years, there would be another wave of startups to market Bitcoin as a storage of value and investment. While those startups are also likely to burn out, they would pave the wave for a mass adoption of bitcoin. And at that point, we will finally start seeing new breed of “killer” remittance apps that take advantage of FULL Bitcoin, currency & ledger.

Bitcoin money transfer - moving cash in China

Bitcoin money transfer – moving cash in China

In a short-term, a bitcoin-based remittance providers might be better-off starting in lower-volume-higher-margins corridors that we discussed above. Outside of legal realm, there is an intriguing case for Bitcoin-based remittances as the transitional “hawala” replacement. For some top global destinations like China, informal remittance channels might be on par or higher than formal. Why senders prefer a shady route instead of “western union”? Privacy & Taxes. Based on our discussions with residents of Chinese communities around NYC, we learned that a) many of them seem to work without paying taxes, b) they also seem extremely secretive of their earnings, both for safety and reputation reasons, c) they perceive a real risk of a bank or remittance provider sharing their transfer information with authorities and/or crime syndicates in USA and China. Without commenting on legal aspects, a Bitcoin-based remittance provider, super-localized and focused on complete anonymity, might bring such “unbanked” segment into the fold of using online tools. Then, maybe some of such users would be less hesitant to try a licensed remittance provider.

We are eagerly awaiting the day the first bitcoin money transfer provider could be added to SaveOnSend app, assuming it won’t be one of the existing players simply adopting parts of a bitcoin-blockchain technology. To enable such startup, we would overlook its understandably tiny market share and potentially not-the-best pricing. There are only 3 rules:

  1. Licensed as a money transmitter n USA’s 10 largest states (CA, FL, TX, NY, IL..)

  2. Independently verifiable 100s of happy customers, representative of a typical mass-market international money senders: monthly-quarterly transaction, $0-3K range, sending to China, India, Philippines, or Mexico

  3. “Bitcoin-seamless” – customers send USD and receive destination currency, but don’t have to do something extra just because of bitcoin

We are wishing you “best of luck” on this unbelievably difficult journey! If we missed anything, please leave a comment.

  • Sam Warner
    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Sam, thanks for commenting. Yes, transferring bitcoin-to-bitcoin is virtually free, but how is it relevant for 99.9…% of typical frequent senders among immigrants and their recipients back in India, Philippines..? What do you think is missing in our post about needs of these consumers, existing supply of services for them and challenges facing bitcoin-centric providers in this context?

      • Sam Warner

        I don’t know, that’s a good question. Do you know how the bitcoin users in India and Philippines find it relevant? Someone should ask these foreign bitcoin users how is bitcoin relevant to them. I know they’re out there. What goods and services do they buy with bitcoin? How many others do they transact with? Who and where are these others? And have they ever purchase something outside their nation with bitcoin? Someone should ask them these questions. Another thing I would add, besides bitcoin being virtually free to transfer, is the difficulty for gov’t to stop bitcoin transfers.

        • OneMillionGateways

          “What goods and services do they buy with bitcoin?”

          Answer: they don’t, they sell them to other people for profit or speculate on the price going up. The only people that buy bitcoin in those places can be described as middle or upper class (a considerably smaller portion of the population) for wealth preservation or transfer.

        • http://BitcoinConcepts.net Luke Parker

          Today? Not much, at least in India. It is still very early days for Bitcoin as a currency. One day, perhaps 5 years away, however, they’ll be able to buy everything with bitcoin. It’s simply a superior form of money that no fiat currency will be able to compete with once it has grown large enough.

      • OneMillionGateways

        I know of a Philippines Bitcoin remittance company that does this, they don’t tell consumers anything about Bitcoin (which is always a mistake, I can explain why in person), instead they offer a 2% fee instead of the 7-15% Filipino’s are normally charged in places like Korea, Japan, and Thailand. The average transfer is $300 every week (as the foreign workers get paid weekly in cash). They then allow the Filipino family member to collect the cash at an in-country Pawn Store (which reaches 90% of the countries population of whom only 10% have bank accounts) after which they sell any extra Bitcoin they have to local buyers.

    • Hasher

      I’m a Bitcoin enthusiast and remit money to the Philippines once in a while.

      The reality is, using Bitcoin is still not worth it- FOR NOW. The cost for normal user are

      (1) fiat to btc (1-5%) + plus conversion delay due to bank

      (2) btc (1-5%) + plus conversion delay due to bank

      (3) bitcoin network fee

      I wish the adoption of BTC can come sooner so that we can remove at least (2) or (1) or both.

      But again, one you became a real Bitcoiner, you cannot leave and go. I still has big hopes for Bitcoin.

      • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

        Hi Hasher, thanks for providing specifics. Have you had experience with providers mentioned in our article, Rebit or Abra?

  • D.R.

    What about RIpple? Do you think Ripple is a revolution for a cross country payment system?

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Thanks for asking. We are not only focusing on consumer remittances. For B2B players like Ripple, better follow somebody like Faisal Khan – e.g., see his response here: http://qr.ae/L5Fjr

      • OneMillionGateways

        Ripple is fine for 1:1 consumers transfer to. Read my book http://rippleinvestmentguide.com/

        • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

          If you could take few minutes, might be great for readers to see key points why Ripple has advantage vs. existing methods for consumers. They could then proceed to your book for more information. Thanks

          • OneMillionGateways

            Sure! 1) For cross border payments Ripple settles instantly (a few seconds, Bitcoin at 10 minutes to an hour is not “instant”) 2) Consumers can expect to receive the best possible exchange rate on the internal currency exchange. 3) No need to purchase a third asset (bitcoin, gold, etc) to send the payment. 4) When consumers KYC with a gateway (or soon to be released identity features) they won’t need to KYC themselves anymore (reducing complexity and costs for consumers and money transmitters). 5) For money transmitters, this allows them to legally bypass unreliable or slow banking infrastructure in many markets. Money also does not need to leave the country of origin, making compliance with capital controls easier. Hope this helps!

          • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

            Thank you. This is probably a rationale for why Western Union is “considering” a pilot with Ripple. The big question is around IT: whether a multi-year effort and $$$ it would cost to move from an existing infrastructure onto Ripple would be justified by potential long-term cost savings and/or business growth.

          • OneMillionGateways

            I would estimate that an organization their size would require maybe a dozen servers for redundancy. The key for them to maximize the benefit would be getting their banking partners to use it which they may or may not be able to do easily.

  • Alex B.

    Great exercise in pragmatism and a necessary reality check for the “reddit crowd”.

    It needs to be said though that competent and resourceful Bitcoin users have options available to them that are without doubt superior to traditional services and infrastructure. I can say that with confidence being one of Rebit.ph user ( and possibly “power user”). Looking at the options available from your app no companies rivals Rebit same day 0% send-to-bank-account rate

    On the other hand I agree with the sentiment of this article and the need to call-out the numerous hyperboles and “world-changing” claims of certain industry entrepreneurs. It is indeed likely Bitcoin will remain a niche method for international remittances for years to come. I have always maintained that Bitcoin’s true promises for frictionless international money transfer can only be realized once there is incentive to hold bitcoins and use them to purchase goods and services. To build Bitcoin services in this fiat environment is fitting a square peg through a round hole.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Alex, thanks for commenting. Agreed on your long-term vision, we hear similar sentiments from those who are in trenches of Bitcoin remittances (see comments here: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bitcoin-blockchain-true-economic-freedom-miguel-cuneta)

      About you personal experience with Rebit.ph… do you mind clarifying if you are OFWs or using Rebit for business payments?

      • Alex B.

        I run small vacation resort in the Philippines. I’ve used Rebit.ph for business payments and transfer of funds to friends and workers. Works flawlessly.

        The key, of course, is to have an established account at any reliable Bitcoin exchange w/ preferably minimal account funding fees. This way you limit your exposure to Bitcoin’s fluctuations which is obviously a no-no for the average consumers. BitReserve is an interesting service that will shield you from such exposure provided you trust them with your money.

        Speaking of them, they have an interesting experiment going on with Banco Azteca in Mexico for the USA-Mexico corridor. You should look it up if you havent’t!

        • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

          Thanks for responding. Small business customers like you might be indeed a better early target for Bitcoin remittances rather than migrants. You went through the trouble of initial learning-setup which most of migrants would simply not consider for relatively small savings (see attached table).

          Do you know any OFWs by any chance? Curious how they would react if you share with them your experience, e.g., what it would take for them to try it? When we ask this question, the response so far have been categorically negative.

          • angelo

            I am an OFW working in Bahrain… I send about 1000 US dollars monthly first into pesos then to bitcoins..because there is no bitcoin exchange here in bahrain. Volatility in not an issue because i actually send directly to my peso wallet which is actually bitcoins stored in peso. And from this peso wallet (which is actually bitcoins in pesos) I can send it to my other bank accounts pay my bills with discounts and buy cellphone loads with discounts also. I use the popular bitcoin exchange in the Philippines. Sending money to the philippines using fiat is already cheap here in bahrain because of competition and economy of scale. But my initial calculations/estimates point to some more savings if i use bitcoins.

            Obvious advantages of bitcoins: flexibility, I can send small amounts to my relatives using the bitcoin exchange

            I believe bitcoin has a bright future in remittance. It should also be useful to travellers to have some bitcoins.. I can always print some paper wallet and spend it. Even even if I lose all my physical wallet, ATM cards, credit cards, I can still use my bitcoins through a paper wallet as long as there is internet available and printer…that’s wonderful!

          • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

            Hi Angelo, thanks for sharing your experience – very helpful and great that you are enjoying the use of Bitcoin! If you don’t mind, please share what made you convinced to try Bitcoin for the first time and how popular Bitcoin among other OFWs in Bahrain?

  • OneMillionGateways

    Bitcoin can’t but Ripple could.

  • ROHara

    Factually incorrect about Western Union….. worked example. 200GBP sent to Thailand via cash agent … Fee=£14.90 Using Western Union online … Fee=£16.90

    So for Western Union …. their online process is more expensive than their cash agent – which is crazy.

    2nd point… just like the Philippines company mentioned by others… there is a Thai company (coins.co.th) that does payouts via 7-Eleven.. There are a lot more 7-Elevens than WU offices in Thailand. It also does cashout at one of the major bank ATM’s without a debit card.

    Even with the double currency conversion, avoiding Western Union for the UK to Thai remittance is about 10% better for the receiver.. I proved that with a worked example that you can read about on reddit.

    You can read it at this link.
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2x7p6w/remittances_a_worked_example/

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Thanks for commenting. Please point to a specific sentence in a blog which you think is “factually incorrect”.
      We don’t know much about corridors outside of USA. Lower margin for sending cash vs. online would seem very strange. In corridors we are tracking, using a cash agent costs 3-5-8x more (check with our app).
      Double conversion is less about today’s state of prices and more about underlying long-term disadvantage of using Bitcoin. I.e., Western Union has slightly more room to lower margins and still be profitable than a Bitcoin provider. In general, agreed that Bitcoin-based remittance providers might be better off focusing on maybe smaller volume but higher cost corridors… hoping that Western Union & Co don’t notice a loss in market share for awhile. Will update the post with this insight. Thanks

  • VanniP

    Well-written and thought-provoking article. The fact that remittance costs can be lowered via digital channels is a no-brainer (the Xoom model), the addition of innovative value transfer protocols like Ripple or Bitcoin is the new news that can lower costs even more vis-a-vis SWIFT. For me the exam question is how to get remittance users to use a next-gen digital service (assuming they have access to the appropriate tech), and that is mostly a question of marketing and distribution I’d think (not an expert, but I think most of WU’s costs go to regulatory compliance and physical network). I find it fascinating that consumers are willing to waste time and money on “traditional” methods even if they have the technology that would enable better, faster methods. A few hypotheses: (1) the real problem is getting cash in/ out of digital remittance “wallets” – relatively easy if you have a bank account or card, close to impossible otherwise; need to really consider partnerships with prepaid card/ ATM providers and retail store chains to facilitate access (2) the user experience for these methods is still quite under-whelming for the most part – the majority of users are high-income and tech-savvy, not exactly your typical target remittance customer (3) general lack of awareness and understanding – a real investment in consumer education needs to be put in place, going far beyond billboards in the NYC subway a la TransferWise. I’d imagine cracking these is key to getting significant traction.

  • IndianUncleSam

    This is an unbelievably through and well written article. I frequently send large sums to India and have been reading up on Bit Coin. This article does a great job of summing up all the considerations and is very informative. And I found this great website that i never knew about. I just used Xoom like everyone else. Bookmarking SaveOnSend and sharing it with friends. Keep up the good work guys !!

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Dear IndianUncleSam, thank you so much for your kind words – SaveOnSend is a completely free/nonprofit service, so appreciation from our readers is what we are striving for. If you haven’t got to them yet, we have specific articles on sending money to India and about Xoom. Please feel free to subscribe to the future articles and to follow us on Twitter. Happy sending!

  • Milly Bitcoin

    Glad to see some rational analysis of Bitcoin. That is something you rarely see in the world of Bitcoin. Many of the people who latched onto Bitcoin early did so because they were promoting a political agenda that is otherwise a non-starter. Your post starts off by quoting Roger Ver. He is a great example of what I am talking about:

    -He claims Bitcoin will end wars as part of the “Bitcoin Not Bombs” movement. While it has never been fully explained, somehow if the whole world switched to Bitcoin as the one and only currency then governments could not borrow to fund war. Even if that were somehow true governments would also not be able to borrow to do other things either. There is a variation to this that all government expenditures could be tracked on the blockchain. Of course the same people promote systems where transactions cannot be traced so it is unclear why governments could only use the traceable type.

    -He went to jail for selling illegal fireworks. He claims he got the harsh treatment because he publically accuses the federal agents at Waco, TX of being murderers.

    -He gave up his US citizenship. Then he complains that he can’t get back in and complains because a clerk at passport window did not adjudicate his complex legal issues.

    -He sued Bitcoin companies for breach of contract yet his lawsuit says he does not actually have a copy of the contract that he claims was breached.

    -He runs the Bitcoin Bounty Hunter web site. Speaks for itself.

    -Made videos about Mt. Gox saying they looked solvent. Speaks for itself.

    -He says the federal agents who busted Silk Road are “the violent ones.” He makes no mention of the murder-for-hire plots of the guy who was busted. He donated to the legal defense and he used the guy’s mother to make videos that promote his political agenda.

    -Intimidated Ripple into selling him currency without following the money laundering regulations. I believed they were fined $750K.

    Some people go around calling this guy ‘Bitcoin Jesus’ and they think he is a driving force behind Bitcoin adoption. I personally think he is mentally unstable and he only attracts irrational and ignorant people.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Hi Milly, glad that you liked this article. In our personal experience with Bitcoin’s players, we come across many good people and some are super-capable (much more than us). Many totally bought into the idea of Bitcoin as the “world-changer” and are blocking other viewpoints. Some are quite aware of pros/cons from our article, but are courageously proceeding in order to build something entirely new (e.g., check out this startup – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=370loNRVSvk). Compare these efforts with the mindset of typical remittance startups that we are describing here: https://www.saveonsend.com/blog/money-transfer-hacks/?

  • Belfrics India

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  • Patrick Dugan

    Abra’s stance may be problematic depending on how decentralized their operative algorithm is. It sounds like Abra is underwriting their balances centrally and likewise their counterparty risk with the hedging market maker is a central counterparty. I am working on 100% software based components that would definitively mitigate any shadow of interpretation that there is an operating and regulatable entity involved in the interactions, other than the counterparties in a spot trade (the “human” teller equivalent).

    I am glad Abra is burning these VC funds doing it 80% decentralized so we have some precedent. Their UX is pretty slick. Let’s see how it translates to conversation rates. What’s App for money will be a thing, eventually, right? Is there anything fundamental to money, such as cultures of secrecy, that might inhibit similar viral growth? Perhaps.

    I am working with people in West Africa so it’s an interesting test bed and small traction is still very transformative.

  • gubatron

    Sending money should not be so hard. It’s just sending money.
    99.9% of people that want to send money are not laundering money or doing illegal shit. Therefore, sending money should be just like sending an email, and yes, screw all that regulatory bullshit, let us send money, it’s just money and this is 2015, and the world will need money to be as fast as everything else.

    Also, if you want to launder money, Bitcoin isn’t a great option, all records are public and easily traceable, if you want to launder money, use US dollars.

  • https://moneytis.com Christophe Lassuyt

    to sum up blockchain money transfers will help in cost and time and bitcoin is one of the blockchain derivatives that we can use in this purpose

  • http://BitcoinConcepts.net Luke Parker

    As a confirmed Bitcoin ‘fanboy’ and one who sees Bitcoin as a superior service to all non-Bitcoin remittance services, I am happy to admit that SaveOnSend isn’t a traditional, rent-seeking, immorally repugnant entity like WU is, who still to this day charges upwards of 24% of a transfer fee in some markets, such as between 2 different African nations. You guys even have rates far below the global average of 10% as stated by the World bank. So good on you guys for not being evil. I’m a capitalist so I have no problem with what you guys appear to be doing at all, nor should any other bitcoin fanboys.

    Further, I’ll happily state for the record that because bitcoins aren’t accepted by local merchants (usually) at the receiving end of transfers, for now there is no argument that a fiat-to-fiat solution is what remittance customers (or more to the point, recipients) need. Bitcoin isn’t a “solution” for most people yet.

    …But look at the growth trend. Remittance may not be driving it, but bitcoin’s acceptance rate at merchants around the world, and more importantly, it’s acceptance in peoples’ minds, is not in doubt… There is nothing but time between today and the day that everyone, everywhere, has their own bitcoin wallet and a balance in it. This is unavoidable.

    And the Bitcoin transaction network, although not yet ready for such high volumes, was designed perfectly for that use with no other services required. It was simply designed for a world that doesn’t exist yet, but can’t fail to come about in time.

    When that day comes, the words “fiat to fiat” will sound like a curse. On that day, people will actually think “Wow, why would you want to do that?” if you suggest sending them money in any other form than bitcoins… And the days isn’t a generation away, either. The numbers show daily adoption uptake, and the use-cases are bombarding the public from every angle at the same time!

    In short, you aren’t fighting a ‘proto-superior’ remittance challenger. That’s not what’s going on here and your whole article seems to assume that is all that you’re up against.

    What you are fighting in Bitcoin is a solution to a Thousand different problems and industries. In some like remittances, it’s not superior yet. In others like Notaries, it is in fact, quite superior and better services exist using bitcoin than the public can even conceive yet.

    All it will take is more general understanding of how the bitcoin blockchain is the most secure and accessible of all possible places to store all documents and records of any kind, and people will start looking for everything to be ‘backed up’ on the blockchain. It’s only a matter of time, perhaps less than 5 years until this is the mainstream sentiment.

    So again, congrats on your awesome remittance service. -But don’t plan on remittance services of any form to exist in 5-10 years… Bitcoin wallets will be in everyones’ hands by then and you’ll all WANT to keep bitcoin balances for spending on everyday things.

    • thirdalbum

      Or in short, when Bitcoin is so ubiquitous that we can spend nearly anywhere in Bitcoin and many people earn in Bitcoin (particularly if they travel a lot) then the cost and difficulty of remitting money with Bitcoin will approach zero.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Hi Luke, thank you for commenting. The challenge with your rationale is that you are describing a vision, but without specifying a practical path to get there. With the latter, it is virtually impossible to have a fact-based debate on the former. See the section “Making Bitcoin money…” in our article for our attempt at connecting two.

      Btw, we are not a remittance provider but a non-profit information portal. We don’t send money, don’t make money, we are just sharing what we know and are hoping to create a fact-based discussion on this fascinating topic.

      • Neil DeJong

        Facts are that blockchain based technology is a decentralized automated trustless ledger. This decreases the risk in trust for distribution, monitoring, and regulation that no other system can do without inheriting costs to manage that risk.

        The cost to manage that risk of transmitting money is one of the larger cost to the banking industry. This is why banks are investing into blockchain technologies like it is 1995 dotcom boom. This is why most of the world using bank will knowingly or unknowingly interface with blockchain based tech.

        Even after banks develop full blockchain ledgers, if they do not embrace a true open source decentralized based ledger such as btc. The cost of entry into developing and deploying open source standards that do is very low. So overpricing or cornering sectors of the market will not provide value to banks. What will is creating great banking systems that are valued on their ease of use, protection of customers, and access to new innovations that benefits the customer.

        In that sense, BTC markets and wealth will transfer into whatever markets provide benefit, insurances to be diversified and store wealth in virtual currencies and maintain liquidity into new ledgers or the best ones will come in the forum of exchange disrupters like bitshares.

        We might call this BTC in the future or it might be called lots of things; just as the internet is tcp, arp, ip, email, Netscape, Facebook, connectivity, and much more.

        Thank you for writing the article as the market research in how BTC interacts with certain market segments. However, what is not measured is the rate of change in these segments and the trend. Ever new technology is more expensive then it is worth at the time of making until it has been refined.

        I think we need to define exactly all the current market sectors and find the magnitude of effect of them on btc. Then measure the rate of their change and impact and finally add in any possible near future events that might delay or advance development to gauge what the market value of this sector really is in the next 3-5 years. Past that I believe it is too hard to predict.

        • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

          Neil, thanks for responding. We can’t have a discussion unless there are facts to consider. Can you provide specific dollar figures for your following statements:

          “The cost to manage that risk of transmitting money is one of the larger cost to the banking industry.”

          “This is why banks are investing into blockchain technologies like it is 1995 dotcom boom”?

          If you want to find specific figures on rates of change, read this section in our article: “Specific examples of Bitcoin money transfer providers.” In short, for C2C x-border remittances, number of repeat customers in those startups are measured in hundreds in each corridor, and monthly transfer volume is in hundreds of thousands $USD. Come back in 6 months to find if this has changed a lot.

  • Sinclair Skinner

    BitMari.com is focusing on remittances to Zimbabwe which is plagued by high fees. We are working with the Zimbabwe authorities and major national bank with several branches and thousands of existing costumers. http://youtu.be/3es-ndzZbjM

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Hi Sinclair, thank you for checking in. Could you provide a bit more information about BitMari: when was it launched, what is its current monthly transfer volume, which corridors does it cover, how many repeat customers does it have and what is their demographics?
      Good luck!

  • Zverev Aleskeevich

    Good article, and mostly correct. However, you’ve missed some large costs involved with sending money internationally either inside the banking system, or with a transfer agent such as Western Union. I regularly send large amounts of money from the US where I work, back to my family in Canada. When I send an international wire, it costs US$50 for me to send it, and CAD$15 for my wife’s bank to receive it. The problem is that somewhere along the line, either at the branch in the US or the branch in Canada, we need to transfer US$ into CAD$. That transaction is always at a rate that is 5% off of the official currency exchange rate – making the transaction very expensive if sending thousands of dollars.

    The same is true for sending with Western Union – who (if I want overnight) charge $200US to send the maximum $2000. And I still need to exchange currency which costs me the 5% skim off the exchange rate. Also, when sending money out of the US using WU anything above $500(I think that amount), and you have to interview with a security agent from WU who wants to know absolutely EVERYTHING about you and the person who you are sending to – including when, how, and how often you communicate, relationship, purpose of the money, etc. Creepy as hell – and in my mind a substantial cost.

    What do I use now? Well, I receive a portion of my pay in the US through BitWage. The money is deposited into my wallet and currently there is no fee, and the USD/BTC exchange rate is usually within 0.5%. I then pay my Canadian bills through a Canadian company called Bylls.com. They charge between 1% and 3% and limit the bills to $10,000CDN per month.

    I send the remainder of my BTC to a Canadian Bitcoin exchange where I buy Canadian dollars for a fee of 0.5%. The USD-BTC-CDN dollar transactions have never cost me more than 2% (remember the banks who were skimming 5%) and on many occasions, I have made a profit, as much as 7% better than the published USD/CAD exchange rate.

    Last step – I initiate an Interac (Canadian interbank system) transfer from my Canadian BTC exchange to my wife’s Canadian bank account. This transaction costs $1.50 and takes about an hour. My BTC exchange places an arbitrary limit of $1000/day however, and they usually take one business day before they actually send it. This is my biggest delay – and it also results in my wife waiting for money, so it is not yet ideal.

    Overall, this method saved me thousands of dollars last year that would have instead gone to the banking system.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Hi Zverev, thanks for responding. We rarely see margins that you are quoting for Western Union – right now, they are charging ~3% FX markup. TransferWise is charging 1% fee for USD-to-CAD and no FX markup, also look up Ria Money Transfer and Transfast. Very glad that you found a Bitcoin solution that is working for you – just keep in mind that for customers who are price-sensitive and are willing to spend time on shopping around there are other options besides Western Union for USD-to-CAD. You should only use a bank for international transfers when sending very large amounts USD-to-USD or when they give you a custom quote.

      For cost structure of money transfer providers, please see our other article: https://www.saveonsend.com/blog/money-transfer-services/

      • Zverev Aleskeevich

        Thank you for the info, I will not use any service that delves into my privacy the way WU security department does – and since they are all regulated the same way, I think that would exclude all of them.

        Here is a screenshot of WU rates as of 10/5/2015. The posted exchange rate for USD to CAD is $1.31. WU is paying $1.2396. This is a 5.68% FX mark up.

        • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

          Thank you, Zverev – you are right, this is incredible expensive for such popular corridor as USA-to-Canada. Great that you found both less expensive and less intrusive option with Bitcoin. We also heard about an opportunity to sometimes even make money. If it is not too much trouble, when it happens next time would you mind sharing with us all records so we could publish such interesting case?

  • Charlie Gillig

    Fantastic article. Well-researched and right on the money.

  • David Dinkins

    This is an excellent, well-reasoned, and insightful piece. It would be better, however, without the obvious bias you have against the bitcoin community. Terms like “hypocrisy” don’t add much to the discourse, and make it seem like you have a bone to pick rather than an objective, rational argument.

    I do particularly like how you pointed out that the actual cost of money transfer using “traditional” methods is in fact quite low, and that much of the cost of using these services is in ordinary overhead, such as commissions, that would be present in any formal business that was based on bitcoin transfer.

    I think the ultimate goal for bitcoin and other digital currencies is to make things so simple to use that people can send value from one person to another directly, without ever interacting with a middleman. Circle is one company that is working hard on that; it is now possible to send money with low or no fees directly to other people using Circle Pay. They use the Bitcoin network to send the transaction, but Bitcoin is never actually mentioned in the marketing. It’s merely a back-office function.

    Theoretically, if the Bitcoin software was more user-friendly and currency conversion was easier or a non-issue (due to a universal, stable bitcoin value), then Bitcoin could be used to transfer value from one wallet directly to another without relying on third-party companies.

    In short, your arguments are valid if you are comparing for-profit “traditional” remittance companies with for-profit Bitcoin-based remittance companies. I think the ultimate goal of the Bitcoin community, however, is to cut all companies out of the equation and send money directly peer-to-peer for virtually free. The rub, of course, is that a rural Bolivian farmer can’t do a damn thing with a bitcoin. IMO, that’s the problem to solve.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Hello David, thank you for writing. If you read our other articles, you will notice a broader theme in our “bias” – it is not specific to Bitcoin, startups, or incumbents – we are anti-misleading:
      https://www.saveonsend.com/blog/money-transfer-hacks/
      https://www.saveonsend.com/blog/money-transfer-startups/

      If you find any inaccuracies or omissions in our articles, please let us know. On your point about Bitcoin’s future, we are also looking forward to so-called “full Bitcoin” becoming a reality at least in a particular, albeit small, country. Unfortunately, the impediment is not just related to acceptance for a Bolivian farmer but also to blockchain’s anonymity. KYC/AML regulations necessitate ability for governments to track every transaction which, by design, requires an established intermediary.

  • http://www.BIGbtc.ca Merchant Integration

    Thorough and nicely written although somewhat biased. Nothing to dispute here. Bitcoin’s true value proposition will be realized once the ecosystem matures. Frictionless when used the way it was intended. Take out the centralized services and VC’s have to look elsewhere for the next big one.

  • hughht5

    not charging any fee, in essence, creating variable-only pricing based only on the FX markup

    FX markup IS A FEE. I wish people would stop seperating flat fee and the hidden FX fee.

    • https://www.SaveOnSend.com SaveOnSend

      Agreed, that is how players like TransferWise and TransferGo are trying to differentiate themselves by charging only the fee and no FX markup. Let’s see if other providers will eventually follow in the same direction

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